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BillyG
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 9:32 pm    Post subject: Greenan Reply with quote

Hi folks: Billy Greenan here, I just joined the site today. My family originated around Drung Cavan has anyone come across this name. My Fathers Name was Hugh any I was told He was the 7th hugh greenan in a line, So Far I have HG7 1918-1992 HG6 1880-1934 I have HG in Flax list in Drung. Any help. Billy
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Billy.

1855-1860

Greenan Hugh Corbeagh Kildrumsherdan Cavan
Greenan James Killyvaghan Drumgoon Cavan
Greenan John Cornacarrow Drumgoon Cavan
Greenan John Drumaveil North Drumgoon Cavan
Greenan John Greaghnacrosss Kildrumsherdan Cavan
Greenan Michael Ouley Castleterra Cavan
Greenan Patrick Corbeagh Kildrumsherdan Cavan
Greenan Thomas Ouley Castleterra Cavan

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:17 pm    Post subject: Greenan Reply with quote

Thanks. Is this list from Griffins Valuation? On it there are 3 HG.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Billy G, I am jumping in infront of admin, there are several sources for griffiths valuation lists of names, However if you want to see the only free and new source that shows where they lived on a map , http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/gv_family_search_form.php and it only has one Hugh.

It all gets interesting how few Irish records there are for Greenan Co Cavan, Admin’ has done well to produce that list for you. For example www.familysearch.com only produces
Census - 1881 British Census
1. Hugh GREENAN - 1881 British Census / Durham
Head Gender: Male Birth: <1833> Ireland
2. Hugh GREENAN - 1881 British Census / Durham
Lodger Gender: Male Birth: <1843> Ireland
Matches: Census/1881 British Census - 2
International Genealogical Index - British Isles
3. Hugh Greenan - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: 01 JAN 1878 , , Ireland
4. Hugh Greenan - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: , , Ireland
5. Hugh Greenan - International Genealogical Index / BI
Gender: Male Birth: , , Ireland
so that’s a surprise for a seven generation line unless they come from somewhere-else

So looking at at No 3 Hugh Greenan
Birth: 01 JAN 1878 , , Ireland
Parents:
Father: Hugh Greenan Family
Mother: eliza Conarty Greenan

So looking at at No 4 Hugh Greenan
Parents:
Father: James Family
Mother: Mary Wills
Marriages:
Spouse: Annie T. Dugan Family
Marriage: 31 JAN 1904 Manhattan, New York, New York

So looking at at No 5 Hugh Greenan
Parents:
Father: Thomas Greenan Family
Mother: Catherine Brady
Marriages:
Spouse: Annie Mee Family
Marriage: 18 APR 1909 Manhattan, New York, New York

Then on CastleGarden.org there are 144 Greenan’s leaving Ireland, more if you inc other Uk ports.


Over to you, keep going Jim
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:15 pm    Post subject: Greenan Reply with quote

Hi Jimg. No 3. is my grandfather (HG6) And my great grandfather (HG5) And great grand mother. Where do find the tithe app for Cavan? Many thanks for your help so far.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I retried Castle Garden.org and to my surprise didn’t get anyone travelling on the same vessel
then bingo I thought I had got it on on Ellis Island Records with
Hugh Greenan Aghaboy 1902 aged 25 but Aghaboy is Co Louth, anyway one can get a list of all Greenans travelling eg one claims newry then I spotted in 1908 a James and John from Kingscourt Cavan , see for yourself

Keep an eye on births at the fee paying websites
GREENAN HUGH 1835 . Down
GREENAN HUGH 1854 . Down

other sources www.sag.org.au/aisnltrs/AISN0306.pdf
1825 – 1832
Co Cavan, those Registered to Keep Arms
NLI
ILB 04 P12
Over 1500 names arranged A-Z by barony, residence, type of arms, for Co Cavan 1799 – 1833, generally 1825 – 1832.

1825
Co Cavan, Freeholders
Cavan County Library
Local Studies Department
Register of Freeholders Co Cavan listing over 1,500 by name, residence and landlord arranged by barony.

1821
Co Cavan, Government Census
NAI, LDS FHL
NAI CEN1821/1-15; LDS films # 597154 – 158
Fragments of the Government Census for parishes of Annagelliff, Ballymachugh, Castlerahan, Castleterra, Crosserlough, Denn, Drumlumman, Drung, Kilbride, Kilmore, Kinawley, Larah, Lavey, Lurgan, Mullagh, Munterconnaught.
there’s more sources on this website! I was looking for your tithes

then I found www.iol.ie/~kevins/geneo/index_geneo.html who mentions the tithes in a summary note but doesn’t say who has them if they exist etc

The tithes Cavan Applotment Book exist for 1824 and 1834
from listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/IRL-CAVAN/2004-10/1097096908
Colin Ferguson says The Tithe Applotment Books for county Cavan would make an ideal project. A few
parishes are available; e.g. Killinkere Parish at
http://personal.nbnet.nb.ca/tmoffatt/cavan/
In the most cases you must resort to microfilm to examine the Tithe
Applotment Books. The best place to start is with the Householders Index
, LDS Film 919001, wherein surnames are indexed by parish. Once the
parish is identified you then turn to the parish records on LDS Films
256,560 to 256,699. Read on wards for more uptodate locations

I am running out of time, so good luck onwards, Jim
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:20 pm    Post subject: Greenan Reply with quote

Hi JimG. Thanks for that. I tried a diferent spelling [Grennan] and got a few more to check out, in Drung. I presume the spelling diference is due to the Change from Gaelic to English.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grennan was an excellent idea. Keep going , jim
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It certainly looks like it also be Grennan or Greenan

Parish of Drung Cavan.

Grennan Andrew Cornacarrow Drung Cavan
Grennan Anne Drumbrollisk Drung Cavan
Grennan Hugh Lisgannon Drung Cavan
Grennan John Drumbrollisk Drung Cavan
Grennan John Dunmurry Drung Cavan
Grennan John Lisbree Drung Cavan
Grennan John Lisgannon Drung Cavan
Grennan Mary Lisgannon Drung Cavan
Grennan Michael Drumbrollisk Drung Cavan
Grennan Michael Lisbree Drung Cavan
Grennan Patrick Cornakill Drung Cavan
Grennan Patrick Dunmurry Drung Cavan
Grennan Peter Dunmurry Drung Cavan

"Drung" by the way means "the place of the congregation" or "the meeting place" indicating that there may have been a mass rock there at some point.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 8:23 pm    Post subject: reply Reply with quote

Thanks Admin. I am still researching. Where would I get the tithe applotment book for Drung or is there any other records I could look through. Thanks, Billy.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Billy,

There is a copy of the Tithe Applotment book at PRONi {The Public Record office of Northern Ireland} but I have found nothing available on line.
If you are close to a Family History Center it may be available there on film,

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:24 pm    Post subject: Greenans Reply with quote

Its been a few years since I was on here. I am still at the genealogy. I found another few Hugh Greenans, and got back to 1780s with the help of 1821 census.
So now I have HG7 1918-92..HG6 1880-1934...HG5 1839-1890..HG4 1821-187? HG3 1780-18??.
I hope you all are keeping well.
Billy.
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